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gti175
04-22-2008, 11:52 AM
Bellow is the diamond I am about to purchase, origially I was going to buy a J colour SI2 because I thought it was colourless and you couldnt see flaws, but i was wrong. This diamond goes for 4800 is this a good price? Does any one think that any flaws will be visble to the naked eye? Also does anyone
know where the best place to have flaws on a diamond where it wont compromise the diamonds beauty.? Any help would be great, i just want
my gf to love it, and shine with brilliance
Carat weight: 1.10
Cut: Ideal
Colour: I
Clarity: SI1
Depth %: 62.1%
Table %: 57%
Symmetry: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Girdle: Thin to medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 6.60 x 6.64 x 4.11 mm

Yosef
04-22-2008, 12:21 PM
Hello, you may not realize it, but your question is much more complex then you may think!

I'll break it down based on my observations of your posted stone and your questions:

1) There is no indication as to which lab graded this diamond, do you know? There is a big difference between a GIA SI1 and an EGL-International SI1.

2) If it's GIA graded, then you should also know GIA does not issue a "Cut" Grade of Ideal. Their scale is Excellent, Very Good, Good, Fair, Poor. EGL-International and EGL-USA do have "Ideal" remarks on their reports. AGS also has an ideal grade. The difference between AGS's Triple Zero Ideal, and either of the EGL's ideal is very different. This begs the question, do you want a "ideal" cut diamond? Or is a "well cut" diamond that has say 95% of the brilliance an AGS-000 good enough? One could argue for example, a 1.1ct "well cut" can be just as brilliant as a 1ct AGS-000. Which would you prefer?

3) If you can get a copy of the lab report and put it here it would help greatly.

4) Regarding placement of the inclusion, this is a tricky question. I'd rather have one black pique or feather on the outside of the stone, where it could be easily hidden by a prong. If you have one right smack in the middle of the table, even if smaller, it could bother you. Then again the size it would be in a 1ct SI1 GIA would probably be too small for most people to even see it. Some inclusions are not a single inclusion, but several. You could have a series of very small white inclusions like a cloud in the stone. Will you be able to see it? Probably not. But will it make the stone less brilliant? Yes, it will impact beauty slightly because it makes the stone less "crystal clear" ...

We can get some very nice AGS-000 diamonds that are SI1 clarity, I color for the budget you're in for a 1.00ct size. Or we can get a GIA excellent cut in the 1.1ct sizes for about the same budget. And of course I'd be happy to inspect them to make sure the inclusions does not detract from the beauty of the stone.

Please let us know if you have any more questions, and if you have more info on the stone you saw, please let us know and I'd be happy to further answer any of your questions.

Kind Regards,
Yosef

gti175
04-22-2008, 04:27 PM
the gia cert # is 14926854, let me know what you think..

Yosef
04-22-2008, 06:15 PM
Hi gti, I looked up the stone online and it seems to be very nice as far as specs.

Have you seen this stone? Has the jeweler seen it?

You have to remember grades, especially in color and clarity are not points, but rather they are ranges. So Is this a "nice" SI1? Is it "average" for SI1 or is it closer to SI2? Or Perhaps closer to VS2? Same can be said for color. Is it a nice I? Is it closer to H? Or closer to J?

Same is true for GIA's Excellent Cut. It's a much wider range then AGS's triple zero which is very exclusive. So why wasn't it sent to the AGS? I can promise you if it did qualify to get the triple zero rating, the diamond cutter would have sent it there because they work on very tight margins and an AGS000 grade would yield them at least 50% more profit. So is it just on the edge of the GIA Excellent grade closer to a very good? Or is it a very nice GIA-EX?

See you can take 500 diamonds that are GIA-Ex cut, SI1, I, and sort by price, and just pick the cheapest. Are you getting a good deal? Perhaps, I mean if you picked the cheapest, then you're assured it's the cheapest of course. But that doesn't mean you got the BEST-Excellent cut, the BEST SI1-Clarity or the BEST I-Color. The ones on the bottom of the list aren't cheaper for no reason. They're cheaper because they were not as attractive as the others and they have been passed around from jeweler to jeweler looking for a home, and get discounted to get moved faster. The market always dictates price.

So how can you tell if you're getting the best diamond for your money? Well you have two choices:

1) You can simply buy the cheapest 1.10ct-GIA-EX-SI1-I out there (I can get you one for $4290).

2) Or you can work with a jeweler you trust who will get you the best 1.10ct-GIA-EX-SI1-I out there for your money. And I could probably get you one very nice stone in those specs for $4700-5000. Of course I'd have to look at them one by one on your behalf and turn them inside out and closely scrutinize them. I do this for all my customers, I never drop ship diamonds. And you'd be assured the inclusions do not detract from the overall look of the diamond, that the I color would be true I or a nice I, and not closer to J, and that the cut really is nice.

Honestly the GIA-EX grade does have a lot of leeway. I would say almost all of them are very well cut stones, but some are borderline. And the GIA-VG grade has some quite ugly stones if you ask me, even though others are quite nice and even better then the worst GIA-EX's.

So whatever choice you decide, even if you decide to purchase elsewhere, I'd be happy to assist you in any way I can.

Best Regards,
Yosef

Mervyn L. Cohn ASA
07-06-2008, 09:22 AM
Bellow is the diamond I am about to purchase, origially I was going to buy a J colour SI2 because I thought it was colourless and you couldnt see flaws, but i was wrong. This diamond goes for 4800 is this a good price? Does any one think that any flaws will be visble to the naked eye? Also does anyone
know where the best place to have flaws on a diamond where it wont compromise the diamonds beauty.? Any help would be great, i just want
my gf to love it, and shine with brilliance
Carat weight: 1.10
Cut: Ideal
Colour: I
Clarity: SI1
Depth %: 62.1%
Table %: 57%
Symmetry: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Girdle: Thin to medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 6.60 x 6.64 x 4.11 mm

This diamond has an eCS = .980, or .2% off of the IDEAL CUT, it should therefore display almost perfect brilliance and Sparkle. The "I" color would be unperceptable to the untrained eye and the inclusions in an SI stone, unless they are in the middle of the table won't matter. At $4800, I'd say you have a good deal. Congradulations on your forthcoming marriage and Mazel Tov

eCS is the e-praise CUT SCORE